Hot!Carbon Seat Upgrade

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2012/09/12 22:29:00 (permalink)

Carbon Seat Upgrade

I’m contemplating upgrading the seat on my 2011 Corsa to a carbon version, and I’d appreciate some collective wisdom from the group.
 
  1. Do the Bacchetta carbon seats come in different sizes? There’s no mention of it on the online shop ordering page. Also, do they include the adaption kit to fit it to the corsa frame?
  2. How much lower is the seat? Lowering the seat is one of the reasons I’m contemplating the upgrade.
 Many thanks
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    Larry
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    Re:Carbon Seat Upgrade 2012/09/13 19:06:26 (permalink)
    I think, not positive, there is a medium and large.  I have a medium with the standard and thick pads sitting in a box in the garage.  I should sell them one of these days.

    The other Larry.

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    Re:Carbon Seat Upgrade 2012/09/13 22:09:10 (permalink)
    I have both a Corsa and the CA 2.0 - and I love the carbon seat with one exception - no water bottle mounts.  I find it much more comfortable than the Corsa's seat, and I thought that was pretty good.  Different shape + thicker foam = more comfort.
     
    They're about the same thickness - thinner seat, but thicker foam.
     
    You can get a couple of add-ons for the bottles - I got the Bent Up Cycles Aero Bag (http://www.bentupcycles.com/bent-up-cycles-aero-bag.html). That just slips over the back of the seat, but it's a little awkward to reach back to get at the bottles.
     
    The other approach is the ADEM Cage Mount (http://www.bentupcycles.com/catalog/accessories-parts-1/hydration/bottle-cage-mounts/adem-cage-mount.html) - this requires drilling two holes in the middle of the seat, but I'd much prefer that over drilling more holes at the edges.  I'm going to get one of these, too.
     
    Hope this helps.
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    Re:Carbon Seat Upgrade 2012/09/14 02:15:14 (permalink)
    From what I've read there are different size seats, small, medium, and large. I don't know the measurements of each but think the width remains the same and the length changes. The carbon seat becomes comfortable when its adjusted 'just right' and that takes many adjustments, but when its right its a great seat. Its light, flexes when needed and suprisingly strong I think it would take a beating before breaking. Lowering the seat is also a gradual adjustment. I really enjoy the one I have.
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    Re:Carbon Seat Upgrade 2012/09/14 15:35:14 (permalink)
    David, see Ventist seat post 4 or 5 below yours then talk to Dana at Bent UP, they have 3 or 4 different sizes, also ask him if it is lower.  The carbon seat on the CA 2 is low because of the frame mount, not sure how that translates for a Corsa, ask Dana.
     
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    Re:Carbon Seat Upgrade 2012/09/16 12:45:42 (permalink)
    dbullard

    I have both a Corsa and the CA 2.0 - and I love the carbon seat with one exception - no water bottle mounts. 

     
    There's another option for mounting bottles on your carbon seat without drilling.  Just use a 1/8" piece of plastic (I used LPDE which comes in 12 x 12 sheets). Use a 6" x 12" section and mount your bottle holders to that. Secure it to your seat with commercial grade Velcro or double sided tape.  No drilling :)
     
    Another plus side is in the event of a crash, the bottle holders will take the hit, and the plastic will flex- no harm to your carbon seat.  I had my first decent crash a few weeks back- just scuffed up my cage. 
     
    Here are a few pics:



     
     

    Kristy
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    Re:Carbon Seat Upgrade 2012/09/16 13:48:12 (permalink)
    Kristy,
    Nice solution for water bottle mounts. What thickness plastic did you use? I see lots of LDPE sheets on Amazon in all kinds of thicknesses, starting at .03 inches.
     
    Will be in Osprey Florida December 16-31. Do you ever ride the Legacy/Venetian Waterway Park Trail? Maybe we will see you in December. I love riding on that trail.
     
    Thanks!
    Don
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    Re:Carbon Seat Upgrade 2012/09/16 14:07:01 (permalink)
    Hi Don, 
     
    The Legacy/Venetian trail is really nice. I've been on it a couple of times heading up to Sarasota. It's a nice way to avoid US41 on a bike... just wish it didn't have a 15 MPH speed limit!   
     
    The bottle mount works well, I saw it on a picture in a post from "rollingbuzy" a while back and threw it together. I used 1/8" LDPE. It's been on there for about 9 months with no problems. You could try to go thinner and see what happens. I picked up the 12x12  LDPE from the local Grainger.com store for about $4.  You can easily build two of these mounts for $10.
     
    Give me a shout when you are in town!

    Kristy
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    Re:Carbon Seat Upgrade 2012/09/16 14:11:28 (permalink)
    drose55

    Kristy,
    Nice solution for water bottle mounts. What thickness plastic did you use? I see lots of LDPE sheets on Amazon in all kinds of thicknesses, starting at .03 inches.

    Thanks!
    Don

     
    Great to hear 1/8" works well. 3/16" or .187 works for me, LDPE (Low Density Polyethylene) Sheet, ASTM D4976 PE113, Natural.
    Velcro works good, especially when first using it, and not sure where to put it. After that, two small screws, like 6-32 or 8-32, make for a solid set up, using nylock nuts at the center of the seat.
    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000ILLO4M/ref=biss_dp_t_asn
    post edited by rollingbuzzy - 2012/09/16 14:29:22
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    Re:Carbon Seat Upgrade 2012/09/16 14:53:44 (permalink)
    Thanks Kristy!

    When the Legacy Trail is not crowded I ride as fast as I want. And there are always cyclists out there going faster than me. At the north end I like to go around the Palmer Ranch area. Many of the roads have bike lanes and traffic is usually light. The new section of Honore Ave from Central Sarasota Parkway south to 681 is really nice! Smooth, no stops, and just an occasional car. It will be a shame when all that land gets developed. But for now there is nothing out there except the road.

    Here is one of my rides from February:

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/151729608
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    Re:Carbon Seat Upgrade 2012/10/07 18:12:56 (permalink)
    Larry

    I think, not positive, there is a medium and large.  I have a medium with the standard and thick pads sitting in a box in the garage.  I should sell them one of these days.


    I'd be interested in buying this seat. How much would you want, and how can I tell if it'll fit me? TIA
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    Re:Carbon Seat Upgrade 2012/10/07 19:25:53 (permalink)
    Which bottle mounts did you use that hold the bottle at that angle? I have been thinking of making some changes and I love the looks of that setup.
    Thanks

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    Re:Carbon Seat Upgrade 2012/10/08 10:42:21 (permalink)
    All very good suggestions here, I'd pretty much state what everyone else has said.  I'd add that I have the carbon seat and like it very much.  Looks great with the carbon front forks.  Ok, I'll admit, bling factor is the main reason I bought the upgrade.  But I also knew that I'd benefit from the added rigidity, increasing overall speed.
     
    RubyRed's suggestion is a very good idea, I think I'll follow suit.  I'll make a few changes I think, carbon fiber looks good with carbon fiber, imo.  
     
    Flexibility is key in a crash, absorbing some of the impact.  Finding a flexible sheet of carbon fiber is easy:
     
    http://www.protechcomposites.com/categories/Carbon-Fiber-Sheets-%252d-Glossy/Black-2x2-Twill/1.0mm/
     
    A 4"x12" sheet is fairly cheap.  There are varying degrees of quality when it comes to carbon fiber cages.  A quick google suggests prices from $20 on up to over $100.  A little bit of research should validate a decent choice. 

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    . 2012/10/08 12:40:56 (permalink)
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    post edited by bentcyclist - 2014/03/04 15:14:35
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    Re:Carbon Seat Upgrade 2012/10/08 14:04:27 (permalink)
    Just my $.02 worth. I have a euromesh and CF seat for my CA 2.0. FOr me, the CF is much more comfortable because of the lumbar support, but the 'penalty' is a much harsher ride. The euromesh seemed to soak up so much road vibration. But, I have not had the euromesh seat back on after getting the CF! YMMV

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    Re:Carbon Seat Upgrade 2012/10/19 20:31:03 (permalink)
    Kristy, you are right. It was a quick and easy to make. The bulk of the cost is in the bottle holders themselves. Thanks for the idea.

    The other Larry.

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    Re:Carbon Seat Upgrade 2012/10/19 21:11:14 (permalink)
    I would be very cautious about using sheets of CF unless the top layer is Kevlar.  As noted, these mounts will take the brunt of a fall.  CF shattering into your back will not be an experience you will soon forget.

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    Re: Carbon Seat Upgrade 2019/11/08 03:57:18 (permalink)
    Yes, Bacchetta carbon seats come in two different sizes. If you want to know other things check: http://www.dexcraft.com
    carbon fiber composites
     
     
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