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Oasis and Good Samaritan in the AZ Desert

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    thecanoe
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    Re: Oasis and Good Samaritan in the AZ Desert 2017/06/25 18:11:36 (permalink)
    Doc,
    I have to leave Cape Zcod for a visit with my mother in Scottsdale. She's not doing well, so , I can't wait until next winter. My wife already told me that I won't be riding in the 120 degree heat and I might not argue with her. I don't know how you do it.

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    Re: Oasis and Good Samaritan in the AZ Desert 2017/06/25 19:01:23 (permalink)
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    Doc,
    I have to leave Cape Zcod for a visit with my mother in Scottsdale. She's not doing well, so , I can't wait until next winter. My wife already told me that I won't be riding in the 120 degree heat and I might not argue with her. I don't know how you do it.



    You shouldn't do it.  Heat acclimatization takes a very long time.  To jump into it will literally kill you.  It also puts a serious damper on the number of hours you can train.  My level of fatigue is much increased in a much shorter time with the heat.  
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    Re: Oasis and Good Samaritan in the AZ Desert 2017/06/27 09:52:06 (permalink)
    You can get quite adapted in 2 weeks of adaptation. You can even start it before you get there with a dailly hot dry sauna (work up to an hour), or by riding with way too much clothing. However, once you get over 95f at most, its too hot for intense training. I used to bring a bike with me to Arizona for work years ago. I would ride before sunrise, or like Dan, seek higher elevation for cooler temps on the weekends. 
     
    Acclimatization only makes you your best in the heat, not superman. You are still affected by it. 
     
    Hot rides are great for heat acclimatization. But, no need to go hard or long at all. An hour or 2 at an easy pace (L2) or less is fine. Just exist on the bike and sweat. Weigh yourself afterwards and you will see why, then start rehydrating.
     
    Longer hot rides, if you are acclimated or not, only serve to prolong recovery time through severe dehydration, or worse, heat stroke or exhaustion.    ...or worse. ..and you are not riding hard enough for much aerobic benefit. See table 2 https://www.trainingpeaks.com/blog/power-training-levels/  Climbs are even worse as you have less airflow for cooling.
     
    If you really want to do a long ride in the heat, dress like Dan, keep wet, look for routes with rivers or lakes where you can cool yourself, make sure you can stop for water several times, and get inside for some AC. 4 or more bottles an hour. You can only take in maybe 30oz max, the rest are for spring yourself.  Consider a cooling vest, and keep rides shorter and harder if you are trying to become a stronger cyclist. 
    post edited by Crit Rider - 2017/06/27 10:34:34
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    Re: Oasis and Good Samaritan in the AZ Desert 2017/06/27 15:00:30 (permalink)
    Better yet, how about the three of us meet up during the winter in Az for a short ride and a long brew!
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    Re: Oasis and Good Samaritan in the AZ Desert 2017/06/27 18:41:08 (permalink)
    Problem is, I'm only going for a week and I only have a mountain bike there. I think MTBing in the desert in that heat will be tough, so, I'll make it a Mom visit and that's it.

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    Re: Oasis and Good Samaritan in the AZ Desert 2017/06/27 19:49:12 (permalink)
    Canoe, you missed the word "winter". I'm not traveling below 9000 feet and highs of 75'F until Fall. I won't be back to AZ until winter.
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    Re: Oasis and Good Samaritan in the AZ Desert 2017/06/28 17:31:44 (permalink)
    Sign me up, boys.
     
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    Re: Oasis and Good Samaritan in the AZ Desert 2017/06/28 18:40:25 (permalink)
    bentcyclist
    Canoe, you missed the word "winter". I'm not traveling below 9000 feet and highs of 75'F until Fall. I won't be back to AZ until winter.


    I'll be back in Feb. N. Scottsdale. What city are you in?

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    Re: Oasis and Good Samaritan in the AZ Desert 2017/06/28 20:35:09 (permalink)
    I'm in Prescott.  
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    Re: Oasis and Good Samaritan in the AZ Desert 2017/06/29 16:03:57 (permalink)
    I'll be in NW Phoenix, so we might have to coax Dan down from the high country with his favorite brew.
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    Re: Oasis and Good Samaritan in the AZ Desert 2017/06/29 17:35:51 (permalink)
    bentcyclist
    I'll be in NW Phoenix, so we might have to coax Dan down from the high country with his favorite brew.


    I love the Apache Wash mountain bike trails. I think that's NW Phoenix.
    Maybe Dan will make the trip to Four Peaks Brewery.

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    Re: Oasis and Good Samaritan in the AZ Desert 2017/06/30 04:13:32 (permalink)
    Looks good in all ways.  Don't know the area your referring to but I'm sure we can make it happen.
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    Re: Oasis and Good Samaritan in the AZ Desert 2017/07/16 10:58:37 (permalink)
    Doc, I've been In Scottsdale for a few days now and never realized that the heat is like a blast furnace. I feel like I'm in prison here. Can't ride, can't go outside, can't go for a swim. But yesterday, my stupidity got the best of me. I got up and out by 7:00 AM for a MTB ride in the McDowell Sonoran mountain preserve. It was in the low 90's and cloudy. I said " how bad can it be"? I managed 11 miles, mostly dirt and just about bonked before I made it back. I learned my lesson. I'll wait for next Feb.

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    Re: Oasis and Good Samaritan in the AZ Desert 2017/07/16 12:35:54 (permalink)
    Cycling became a lot more fun when I eliminated summer and winter from the calendar.
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    Re: Oasis and Good Samaritan in the AZ Desert 2017/07/16 19:55:17 (permalink)
    bentcyclist
    Cycling became a lot more fun when I eliminated summer and winter from the calendar.


    I'm working on that same plan. Just need to convince my wife.

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